One set of books I always seem to end up looking at is Personalhistoriske, statistiske og genealogiske bidrag til en almindelig danske præstehistorie : eller alphabetisk ordnet fortegnelse over alle sognekald, sognecapellanier, hospitalspræsteembeder o.s.v. i Danmark med anførelse af præsterne i dem siden reformationen, og efterretninger om deres personalia o.s.v. (the Priest History for Denmark.)
This is a chronological list of Priests for each Danish parish from the reformation to about 1878. It is also on the web: http://tom-stryhn.com/viberg/windex.php
So, if you have Danish priests up your family tree, check it out.
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Tuesday, April 26, 2011
Korsbech and Anne Andersdatter - The Regnskaber
Well I did find out a little about Anne Andersdatter of Korsbech. The tax lists (regnskaber) show me who her mother is.
The thing about tax lists is you have to look at EVERY year. The records are unique each time. Sometimes a patronymic name is given along with a residence, sometimes a wife or child is listed by name. The lesson here, is just look at every year and see what you get.
I should have read my tax list post from a while ago. Some of this is bound to be a repeat of that. The best information I got on Anne Andersdatter was from the Konsumtions- familie- og folkeskatsregnskaber.
Here are some examples:
1696 part 1. This shows an entire page.
Seventh from the bottom you see Dorethe Korsbech listed with a daughter Anne Andersdatter.
1696 part 2 page 352b. Dorethe Korsbech and 1 datter Anne.
1697 part 1 page 316b. Fifth from the bottom Dorthe Rasmusdatter Korsbech, 1 datter Anne
1697 part 2 page 310a. Second from the top, Dorethe Korsbech, 1 datter Anne.
1698 part 1 page 322b. Forth from bottom, Dorethe Korsbech, 1 datter Anne
1698 part 2 page 304b. Forth from bottom, Dorethe Korsbech, 1 datter Anne
1699 part 1 page 301b. Forth from bottom, Dorethe Rasmusdatter Korsbech, 1 datter, Anne.
1699 part 2 page 290a, Dorthe and Anne are missing.
I found one example in the Ekstraskateregnskaber 1699-1700 page 520a
Third from the top, Dorethe Korsbæch.
I could not find an Anders linked to Korsbech or Anne Andersdatter or her mother in other years. But I did find the name of her mother.
The thing about tax lists is you have to look at EVERY year. The records are unique each time. Sometimes a patronymic name is given along with a residence, sometimes a wife or child is listed by name. The lesson here, is just look at every year and see what you get.
I should have read my tax list post from a while ago. Some of this is bound to be a repeat of that. The best information I got on Anne Andersdatter was from the Konsumtions- familie- og folkeskatsregnskaber.
Here are some examples:
1696 part 1. This shows an entire page.
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1696 part 2 page 352b. Dorethe Korsbech and 1 datter Anne.
1697 part 1 page 316b. Fifth from the bottom Dorthe Rasmusdatter Korsbech, 1 datter Anne
1697 part 2 page 310a. Second from the top, Dorethe Korsbech, 1 datter Anne.
1698 part 1 page 322b. Forth from bottom, Dorethe Korsbech, 1 datter Anne
1698 part 2 page 304b. Forth from bottom, Dorethe Korsbech, 1 datter Anne
1699 part 1 page 301b. Forth from bottom, Dorethe Rasmusdatter Korsbech, 1 datter, Anne.
1699 part 2 page 290a, Dorthe and Anne are missing.
I found one example in the Ekstraskateregnskaber 1699-1700 page 520a
Third from the top, Dorethe Korsbæch.
I could not find an Anders linked to Korsbech or Anne Andersdatter or her mother in other years. But I did find the name of her mother.
Korsbech and Anne Andersdatter - The Kirkebøger
I was having difficulty finding anything about my grandmother Anne Andersdatter. The only thing I knew was she married Mogens Nielsen 21 Aug. 1701 in the Gøttrup church (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 135.) She was listed as being from Korsbech (also spelled Korsbæk). So I read the parish register hoping to find something more about her. I did find her as a witness to the baptism of Gertrud Mikkelsdatter (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 51.) And that's the only place I found her other than her marriage record. What I'm going to share are examples of how Korsbech was written in the churchbook.
This is from Anne's marriage record (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 135)
This is Anne Andersdatter Korsbech (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 51)
What I did learn was there was another family living in Korsbech, Niels Jørgensen and Anne Pedersdatter. Anne was a witness at several baptisms.
Ender Ollufsen's baptism (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 34). Note that Kors is spelled out.
Mads Jensen's baptism (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 57).
Other examples of Korsbech are:
Maren Nielsdatter's baptism. She is the child of Niels Jørgensen and Anne Pedersdatter (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 27) Note the use of the cross in place of Kors.
Birgitte Jensdatter's baptism. Anne Pedersdatter is a witness. (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 31)
This is from Anne's marriage record (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 135)
This is Anne Andersdatter Korsbech (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 51)
What I did learn was there was another family living in Korsbech, Niels Jørgensen and Anne Pedersdatter. Anne was a witness at several baptisms.
Mads Jensen's baptism (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 57).
Other examples of Korsbech are:
Maren Nielsdatter's baptism. She is the child of Niels Jørgensen and Anne Pedersdatter (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 27) Note the use of the cross in place of Kors.
Birgitte Jensdatter's baptism. Anne Pedersdatter is a witness. (Gøttrup kirkebøger 1682-1724 opslag 31)
Wednesday, January 5, 2011
Carl Bloch and København
Most of my Danish folks are from Vendsyssel (North Jutland) so I don't often have the opportunity to play with the records of København. Since I have been voluntering at the Carl Bloch exhibit (http://carlbloch.byu.edu) I thought I would do a little genealogy on his behalf.
The research methodology I used in København will work in Oslo, Stockholm or any other major Scandinavian city.
I started with the Folketælling (http://ddd.dda.dk)
Samtlige personer i husstanden
Carl Bloch lives on Ny Kongensgade. I then went to the Danish Archives and found a Street-Parish guide.
I searched using the terms "Gader" and "Sogne". I found the following:
http://www.sa.dk/media(1148,1030)/Gade_sogn_1787.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1149,1030)/Gade_sogn_1801.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1150,1030)/Gade_sogn_1840.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1154,1030)/Gade_kvarter_sogn_1863.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1151,1030)/Gade_sogn_1870.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(2783,1030)/Fra_gade_til_sogn_-_K%C3%B8benhavn_1880.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1153,1030)/Gade_sogn_1890.pdf
I also found a chronological listing of the parishes of København:
http://www.landsarkivetkbh.dk/hovedst/docs/sogneikbh.pdf
Now I could check the parish records.
I found the family in the Holmen, Vor Frue, Sankt Johannes, and Helligånd parishes.
I also found the Dansk Biografisk Lexikon online (http://runeberg.org/dbl/). There are actual scanned pages and a text version of each page. I dumped the text into translate.google.com and got a rough translation for Carl Henrich Bloch, his brother, his father-in-law, and his grandfather-in-law. I found out that Alma's father was a war hero and that both parents and her grandfather had died before she got married.
Carl Bloch is truly a master. I enjoy working with the altar pieces that have made their way to Utah. I am going to visit these paintings when they are returned. Carl Bloch is buried in the Holmen Kirkegård and I'm going to pay my respects to this great man and thank him for sharing his talent with the world.
The research methodology I used in København will work in Oslo, Stockholm or any other major Scandinavian city.
I started with the Folketælling (http://ddd.dda.dk)
Dansk Demografisk Database
Samtlige personer i husstanden
København, København (Staden), Ny Kongensgade, Ny Kongensgade 9, Matr.nr. 232, Forhus, 1. Sal, 20, FT-1880, C9744
| Navn: | Alder: | Civilstand: | Stilling i husstanden: | Erhverv: | Fødested: |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Carl Heinrich Bloch | 45 | Gift | Huusfader, Professor Maler ?? | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Alma Bloch født Trepka | 34 | Gift | hans Kone | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Paul Trepka Bloch | 10 | Ugift | deres Søn | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Ida Alma Bloch | 9 | Ugift | deres Datter | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Michael Trepka Bloch | 7 | Ugift | deres Søn | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Emmanuel Trepka Bloch | 7 | Ugift | deres Søn | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Jørgen Andersen Trepka Bloch | 4 | Ugift | deres Søn | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Clara Emilie Rose Bloch | 1 | Ugift | deres Datter | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Inger Kathrine Hansen | 20 | Ugift | Tjenestepige | Gredsted | |
| Inger Marie Hansen | 31 | Ugift | Tjenestepige | Kimmerslev | |
| Laura Caroline Linda Skjold | 20 | Ugift | Tjenestepige | Kjøbenhavn | |
| Lovise Hansen | 24 | Ugift | Tjenestepige | Rungsted | |
| Anders Fonnesbeck | 27 | Ugift | Handelsfuldmægtig | Kjøbenhavn |
Carl Bloch lives on Ny Kongensgade. I then went to the Danish Archives and found a Street-Parish guide.
I searched using the terms "Gader" and "Sogne". I found the following:
http://www.sa.dk/media(1148,1030)/Gade_sogn_1787.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1149,1030)/Gade_sogn_1801.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1150,1030)/Gade_sogn_1840.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1154,1030)/Gade_kvarter_sogn_1863.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1151,1030)/Gade_sogn_1870.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(2783,1030)/Fra_gade_til_sogn_-_K%C3%B8benhavn_1880.pdf
http://www.sa.dk/media(1153,1030)/Gade_sogn_1890.pdf
I also found a chronological listing of the parishes of København:
http://www.landsarkivetkbh.dk/hovedst/docs/sogneikbh.pdf
Now I could check the parish records.
I found the family in the Holmen, Vor Frue, Sankt Johannes, and Helligånd parishes.
I also found the Dansk Biografisk Lexikon online (http://runeberg.org/dbl/). There are actual scanned pages and a text version of each page. I dumped the text into translate.google.com and got a rough translation for Carl Henrich Bloch, his brother, his father-in-law, and his grandfather-in-law. I found out that Alma's father was a war hero and that both parents and her grandfather had died before she got married.
Carl Bloch is truly a master. I enjoy working with the altar pieces that have made their way to Utah. I am going to visit these paintings when they are returned. Carl Bloch is buried in the Holmen Kirkegård and I'm going to pay my respects to this great man and thank him for sharing his talent with the world.
Wednesday, October 20, 2010
Skifteprotokol (Godset example)
I am posting an example of a skifteprotokol recorded on the Gods (Manor) level. Each Manor owned numerous tracts of land and often times the land was in several different parishes. The Family History Library Catalog allows you to search by parish and see what Manors had farms in a parish. It is also wise to search on the herred level in the Family History Library Catalog when reviewing available sources for your parishes.
I have an ancestor, Maren Jensdatter (1679-1741). She died in Øland, Hjørring, Denmark. Her husband was a degn (parish clerk). I thought she might have a probate since her husband was a degn. I first checked the Deanery probates (not on krabsen.dk) then I checked http://www.krabsen.dk/
From the index I chose the Maren Jensdatter in Østerbye since that town is in Øland.
This is the title of the volume where Maren's probate is:
Children listed are:
Anders Laursen Holbecch, 34 years
Jens LarLaursen, Knudergaard, 32 years
Christen Laursen, home with father, 30 years
Thomas Laursen, Vesterbye in Øland, 28 years
Jørgen Laursen, home with father, 26 years
Laurs Laursen, home with father, 24 years
I have an ancestor, Maren Jensdatter (1679-1741). She died in Øland, Hjørring, Denmark. Her husband was a degn (parish clerk). I thought she might have a probate since her husband was a degn. I first checked the Deanery probates (not on krabsen.dk) then I checked http://www.krabsen.dk/
From the index I chose the Maren Jensdatter in Østerbye since that town is in Øland.
This is the title of the volume where Maren's probate is:
Her probate begins on page 84a.
Her husband is Lars Andersen Degn. Children listed are:
Anders Laursen Holbecch, 34 years
Jens LarLaursen, Knudergaard, 32 years
Christen Laursen, home with father, 30 years
Thomas Laursen, Vesterbye in Øland, 28 years
Jørgen Laursen, home with father, 26 years
Laurs Laursen, home with father, 24 years
Tuesday, October 5, 2010
Skifteprotokoller - Danish Probates (Herredsret example)
Tonight, I found the probate record for a grandfather, Anders Jakobsen. He died 6 Feb. 1854 it Kaas, Jetsmark, Hjørring, Denmark. To find a probate for him I would check the Herredsret records first. The manors' responsibility for keeping track of probate records faded in the early 1800's and the Herred or Judicial District began keeping more detailed records.
The record I chose to search was the 1840-1846 volume. At the end there was an index.
Here we see that there is an Anders Jacobsen hus
When searching most Danish records, it is good to remember that the pagination is usually as follows: 1a,1b,2a,2b. On page 312b we find the following:
We see five children listed: Jacob Andersen of Mannemase
Jens Andersen of Vrendsted
Else Marie Andersdatter of hjemme
Peder Christian Andersen of Lundbæk
Niels Andersen of Kaas.
The record I chose to search was the 1840-1846 volume. At the end there was an index.
Here we see that there is an Anders Jacobsen hus
When searching most Danish records, it is good to remember that the pagination is usually as follows: 1a,1b,2a,2b. On page 312b we find the following:
We see five children listed: Jacob Andersen of Mannemase
Jens Andersen of Vrendsted
Else Marie Andersdatter of hjemme
Peder Christian Andersen of Lundbæk
Niels Andersen of Kaas.
Friday, October 1, 2010
Websites for Danish Research
I thought it might be handy to list the websites I use and why I use them.
- www.arkivalieronline.dk This is a collection of actual images from church books and censuses (folketælling). The site is in Danish and requires registration. There is a guide in English for first time users. The images are good quality and it is easy to save the image. You will want to change the name when you save it. I put the name of the record I am saving (i.e.: Brovst 1812-1832 opslag 34). You may also want to put the name of the person in the file name so you can identify who you have found.
- ddd.dda.dk This is a collection of indexed records: Censuses, Migration (in and out of Denmark) some Probates (Thisted, Aalborg, Viborg, and Randers), some church books and various other records. I use it mostly for censuses. As far as I have found, nearly all of Denmark is indexed for 1787, 1801 and 1834. Some features of the site are in English but most results will be in Danish. There are many others and the site is constantly updated as new records are indexed. Remember, this is not complete and the indexers can make a mistake. You will always want to check the indexed record against the original record.
- www.familysearch.org The surname searching on the original familysearch site will treat Pedersen and Pedersdatter as the same surname. It will also include known variances like Kristensen, Christensen, Christiansen, Xtensen, Xsen, and the female equivalents. Most of my research has been in Hjørring and all of Hjørring has been extracted or indexed through about 1860. (Brovst, Øster Svenstrup and Sejlstrup are in the Vital Records Index while the rest of Hjørring is in the International Genealogical Index (IGI). Also available here are research guides, maps, and word lists.
- www.krabsen.dk There are two indexes on this site that are invaluable: the probate index for Vendsyssel (Thisted, Hjørring, and northern Aalborg) and the place index. The probate index does not have the records of every manor, the deanery probates, and records found on the herred and amt level. You will need to search the filmed copies to review these records. The place index is not complete but still valuable for helping you determine where a farm is or how to spell the name.
- www.sognetraef.dk This is a website that allows you to coordinate research with others (usually in Denmark).
- www.kms.dk This is a site that contains historic maps of Denmark. You can search by town or village name.
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